You can do it though. Now Chona drinks milk together with adopting other Western thing and it gets sicker by the day. What do you think cows do in the wild- I dont think the bull asks permission. It is a WELL ESTABLISHED FACT that the hormones put in cows make ALL of them sick HENCE WHY ANTIBIOTICS ARE USED in 100% of them. Claims about pus in milk have been circulating in various forms for years. Guess what? It is nothing like the same as humans genetically selecting cows with unnaturally large udders, artificially inseminating them so they constantly produce milk, keeping them confined against their will and steeling the milk which they most definitely did not produce for your consumption. And only babies of the mother, not other species! Pages that push vegetarian or vegan diets or lifestyles may not be interested in telling the whole truth about dairy. This is blatant exploitation not mutually beneficial evolution, or cant you see that? That is a shocking thing to say!! These dairy farms do exist!! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nathan-j-winograd/peta-kills-puppies-kittens_b_2979220.html Feeding someone and ensuring their health just so you can keep them captive to exploit them is wrong. It makes you look stupid. PETA kills animals and throws their bodies in dumpsters so they dont have to live in this world. I grew up on milk. You are a fantastic blogger! A lot of vegetables make me very, very sick. About 2 years ago I became lactose intolerant. , Sorry. pushers: vegans and animal rights extremists (i.e. Milk is disgusting and horrifically unhealthy & cruel anyone who say different is selling you something (like milk? How long in years do your dairy cows live who are forced to give milk?. I found this page because so many vegans and activists claim there is pus in milk. Florida has seen results as high as 19% pus content. Oh and to answer one question, the male dairy cows are all killed for veal, they are tied down to ensure their muscles dont develop so the cows are always artificially inseminated in a device called a rape rack. Hey, stupid people who stay away from milk because of ethical reasons, I would trade my condition with you in a heartbeatway to many beneficial things with milk, There are actually a few options- lactose free milk (they add the lactase enzyme to breakdown lactose before you drink it) and FairLife milk (filters out the lactose). As Ive often said, An assertion is not a fact. Be well! Good work! You dont know what it means to have a positive responses every now and then. Of course your comment will appear!! I will not have to compete with your for food. Because of the mastitis epidemic in the U.S. dairy herd, the dairy industry continues to demand that American milk retain the highest allowable somatic cell concentration in the world. A founding member and Fellow of the American College of Lifestyle Medicine, Michael Greger, MD, is a physician, New York Times bestselling author, and internationally recognized speaker on nutrition. But all the other farms are. Nope). We use a natural remedy with vitamins that helps boost the cows immune system so they can fight the infection naturally. . How is it that you think I can better contribute to their wellbeing other than opposing what you do? I truly appreciate your logical and thoughtful responses. 3% of organic-milk-producing dairy cows die compared to 1% of conventional-milk-producing cows, who are able to take anti-biotics. Subscribe to our free newsletter and receive The Evidence-Based Eating Guide: A Healthy Living Resource from Dr. Greger and NutritionFacts.org. Before that my bloods were perfect for vitamins found in milk. So the confusion is comparing somatic cells SSC to pus which it isnt. Good luck my friend! Cows are artificially inseminated, but while some people try to make sound bad, it is actually not so. But I loved smoking too, till it just wasnt worth it anymore. Thanks for the complement, Im glad you liked it! For example (just like people), sometimes they get pneumonia, and sometimes they get mastitis, a infection in the mammary glands of the cow. Next time dont ass-ume. Also sucking from a cows tits doesnt seem very safe or clean. Screenshot taken on October 1, 2018 of Sonia Sae's viral Facebook post, Screenshot taken on October 1, 2018 of a YouTube video by thefunkyfarmer. The problem is you are not honest about what you do to animals and you seek to blame others. Pus is not the correct term its a slang for drum roll please. Mastitis occurs when the white blood cells are released in the cows udder to fight the invading bacteria. The study he uses to "prove" his case notes that the iodine used to clean a cow's udder is a good preventative practice and works effectively. Mastitis is basically an infection the cow gets in her mammary system. Animal Rights activists do all they can not to harm animals in ANY way. Diabetes, obesity, depression etc Maybe youre the DUMBASS if you believe what a dairy farmer says. It bothered me so I did some research, part of which brought me to this page. First, players will need to download and Emulator. Dead white cells are pus. Read about casomorphine. i dont care .. not your milk !! Evolve or die. There are many people who are animal farmers. Some day you will be looked upon with the shame of any slave owner. Thank you for your perspective. Populations that can afford to purchase milk are generally healthier. Mastitis will only cause the milk to be watery, or have flakes or clots. Thank you for this comment. And so so impressed that you came back to share your experience. You eat broccoli for a week and ill drink milk. Its really like a protective shield that is used to fight off any potential infection from happening. Why would two out of the three ingredients for pus pass through, but not the thirdwhich just happens to be the one that grosses consumers out the most? Why would you post that to support the idea of animal activists causing suffering? So, the next time you are elbow deep in a cows vagina, please tell me how normal and natural it feels. Generally, these "experts" equate somatic cells with pus cells. No doubt cows would survive if left in peace; they would feed themselves and breed naturally. Why not giraffe milk, dog milk its all the same. Advantages and disadvantages of pesticides. Yes, they go outside. Karmic rule of the universe to ensure animals are given good care. A bowl of Broccoli has as much calcium and protein as a cup of milk, and its digestible. 01444899 info@futureinternationalschools.com. Plus then there are also a lot of regulations monitoring milk quality, and cleanliness. Milk may or may not have pus, but it is not healthy for adult human consumption, and thats fact. The industry should be ashamed of itself putting profits over humans. There is no hidden benefit in telling people to stop drinking milk. What do vegans have to gain? calves dont work and Cows live a pretty chill, stress-free lifestyle. Then congrats, your one of the few that arent feeding children infected cows pus and blood. If you destroy the feed trucks, you cant feed any animals. I mean there must be some truth to it right? Now, lets take a look at these pus cells that anti-dairy groups claim are in the milk you drink. Thank you for explaining the milk puss myth. Finally someone to put some sense to these issues. Your email address will not be published. If theres no puss in milk then why is there an acceptable limit . Whether you agree or disagree, misleading or being misled on whether or not there is puss in milk, is not important in the grand scheme of things.. bless! I find it amazing how its no big deal. Or maybe its weird that vegans arent dying from malnutrition. I think once you understand mastitis, you can understand how the pus myth originated. Dr. Greger has lectured at the Conference on World Affairs, testified before Congress, and was invited as an expert witness in the defense of Oprah Winfrey in the infamous meat defamation trial. It's a combination of the normal protective fluid in your respiratory passages and debris related to your infection. The events listed on the calendar are currently up to date. Where do you get information like that? "The average somatic cell count in U.S. milk per spoonful is 1,120,000." Dr. G says that according to his calculations, there is 'not much' pus in a glass of milk - he believes it's unlikely the average cup of milk in the United States would contain more than a single drop of pus. Its insulting that you say I lie though. Leucocytes. Veganism isnt natural and is a modern day fad. Let Bessie feed her kids with hers. You try to breed the strong bulls to the weak cows to give them the strength they need. It is sometimes claimed that milk contains pus, but this is simply not true. What happens to the somatic cells once they have reached the end of their capacity to fight an infection in the mammary glands? If you do respond, thank you for your time! Assuming the excess neutrophils drawn to the infected udder are pus-forming, 5 million divided by 4 million equals little more than a single pus-drop per cup (though I guess that could mean as much as 2 or 3 per tall frosty glass). Too funny! Mastitis is caused by a variety of different bacteria so the severity of the illness can really vary. Non-organic milk is TOXIC DO NOT DRINK IT. So I can no longer drink milk. You have entered an incorrect email address! increasing bad Cholesterol, antibiotics intake and more) as well as aesthetic aspects of Somatic/pus cells in milk, and have not been able to make myself consume Dairy again since (really unfortunate because I loved everything about it). Its always in our best interest at the dairy to prevent cows from getting ill, but it inevitably does happen. Is there an underlying agenda? I love milk. Consequently the dairy industry continues to shrink while plant-based milk sales rocket. The purposeful conflating the two is a transparent semantic distortion. An Emulator is a PC application that acts as whatever console is chosen. lolololol, This article screams of bs. You eat them trillions of them in meat and nobody is complaining about them. Dairy products such as milk or yogurt (except for people who have dairy allergies) because they provide natural sugars that your body needs when fighting off an infection. But I no longer drink it often in exchange for almond or soy milk because of issues like these. The video also shows that the other two bovines produce a white liquid. . Thank you for being brave enough to write this blog. In May 2008, the Advertising Standards Authority stated that "to refer to the white blood cells naturally present in milk as 'pus' was misleading". America consumes the most dairy in the world, yet America also has the most people diagnosed with osteoporosis, by the way long time vegans dont get osteoporosis like dairy consumers. Consider that the recommendations for sugar intake call. UK taxpayers paid over 500000 to advertise the drinking of milk during lockdown. Subtracting the 200,000 that could be present in nonmastitic milk and subtracting the non-inflammatory fraction (10%) leaves us with 21,600 neutrophils per ml, and multiplying that by the volume of milk in a cup (237ml) comes out to be about 5 million neutrophils per cup. If they arent as high in their integrity as you, thats a real problem. Any other use, in particular any reproduction, communication to the public or distribution of the content of this website, in whole or in part, for any other purpose and/or by any other means, without a specific licence agreement signed with AFP, is strictly prohibited. i feel like this is fake, i drink milk like every day every second and i dont get sick. NO, there would be white blood cells, a somatic cell count, in milk even if an animal were completely free of infection. ), Bob you seem to be confused about somatic cells they arent puss. Theres plenty more vegetables that are the same. The udder sac is hard, tight, and firm. Calcium and protein is in so many vegetables, its like ignoring what we have right in front of us. Amen!! Ping pong is an activity that uses a ball, therefore ping pong is football and is an activity that carries a high risk of injury including that 1 in 100 participants will suffer a concussive injury.. The farms work hard to make sure the milk is clean and safe for human consumption. blue pus pus with a bluish tint, seen in certain suppurative infections, the color occurring as a result of the presence of an antibiotic pigment (pyocyanin) produced by Pseudomonas aeruginosa. With so many other articles online loudly proclaiming that milk has pus in it, I hope this article gives you some insight from someone who works with cows every day. The cow is milked in the hospital pen, where she can be cared for, and be separate from the rest of the herd until she is better. Pus does not need to look like it came from an opened wound. Its one of the reasons why I started this blog because I was so fed up with people spreading nonsense like all the ramblings you pasted here.. Anti-agriculture groups (like nutritionfacts . A million cells per spoonful sounds like a lot, but pus is really concentrated. You either didnt read or comprehend the article, or you are being purposely obtuse. We as humans have no business ingesting any form of animal protein. A hero for farmers and the working class. You sound just a bit too good to be true, my dairy farming friend. Its actually illegal for dairies to sell milk with antibiotics. The 10 Most Popular Blog Postings of 2011! According to the USDA, 1 in 6 dairy cows in the United States suffers from clinical mastitis, which is responsible for 1 in 6 dairy cow deaths on U.S. dairy farms. If the udders of our factory-farmed dairy cows are inflamed and infected, industry folks say, it doesnt matter, because we pasteurizethe pus gets cooked. You can mate a frail cow to a strong bull to give the next generation more strength and a better life, and you can also select bulls with better health traits. Just because you copy and paste propaganda and put things in capital letters does not make it truth. I think the real question youre driving at is how can cows exist if they are not farmed, if it werent for people like you? So 2/100 get mastitis every month meaning about a quarter of them yearly.. so the stats are right hahahha. Why not get it straight from the source? In pretty much all commercial (for sale) dairy operations the calf FOR WHOM THE MILK WAS CREATED never get a taste. Does this article apply to only organic milk ? Forcing other people to do what you will not do is nothing but hypocritical. Those who have an ideological or commercial reason to want us to fear milk are trying to convince us that SCC and pus are interchangeable terms. More and more people are drinking almond milk because they learn the truth.peace. I dont understand why you keep saying that its not pus. Seems suspect if Im honest, but Im not a scientist. Even if pus was green, when diluted in milk it wouldnt turn the milk green. Tea manufacturers ? The same applies with dairy cows; if they arent healthy they arent producing as much milk as they could be. Ridiculous isnt it! I have lots of respect for Dairy farmers. In the U.S., the Food and Drug . But the C.D.C. The problem is that many of our cows are not healthy. Hmm also, you need to take in magnesium in order to get the smallest benefit from animal milk. I dont even know where to start, but i will encourage you to do more research. I have been getting a lot of facebook stuff about pus in milk etc (usually the David Wolfe ones) which just looked so unlikely. A litre of milk can have up to 400,000,000 somatic cells (pus cells) before it is considered unfit for people to drink. Then it depends on the cellular concentration of pus. So basically, virtually almost all dairy milk has some form of pus in it. To tell you the truth, there is no such thing as a pus cell. Our cows are fed a variety of grasses. I dont know what farm you visited, but on our farm and every other farm Ive visited the cows are given the best care, and treated with respect. Markets change. A nonsensical question, and I think you know it. It saddens me to see such hatred towards dairiesespecially when I know from years of experience on these dairies that farmers work so hard to raise happy, healthy cows. Kudos. Your PETA claim is silly and bogus as they are in no way the official standard bearer of animal rights; in fact many animal rights folks as you like to call em, are opposed to PETA. Hope youll watch and allow this on the website. Here is your argument: Pus is a liquid that forms in infected tissue. Why not consult the one who actually worked to produce it. Somatic cells are not puss. Some cows that get mastitis will get over the infection naturally without any help. And to correct you, if milk is so good for you, ten why do countries that regularly consume dairy products have the highest rates of osteoporosis? pus in milk snopes. Its used to scare people, and play on their emotional fears to get them to stop drinking milk. These guidelines were written to be realistic and practical for dairy farms. We keep their stalls full of fresh, clean bedding; we clean the barns of manure multiple times per day; we utilize sanitary practices during the milking of each cow; we ensure that our milking equipment is properly maintained and serviced, and we apply an antibacterial teatprotecting dip after milking when the open teat end could allow the entry of bacteria. The same thing occurs with pus: it is possible for an ill cow to give milk that contains pus, but those cows are separated from the herd and their production is thrown away, the professor said. Pus in milk snopes. Since pus contains white blood cells, anything that contains white blood cells is pus. Wan. How are you making the world a better place for cows? Theres loads of truth, Earthlings, Cowspiracy, Farm to Fridge (great, well-researched documentaries) and real undercover video of dairy operations available on youtube & Netflix. So some cows that get mastitis are treated with antibiotics. So this milk is doesnt enter the bulk tank, or leave the dairy. i do however think that the life of many dairy cows probably isnt very nice particularly the ones which produce milk at rock bottom prices.. Its your choice to choose who you believe. Your email address will not be published. But it didnt, not even a tiny bit. Thank you for posting the facts on this subject. Its like running in circles. The abuse is being done by the activist themselves. One day, a poor boy who was selling goods from door to door to pay his way through school, found he had only one thin dime left, and he was hungry. Football is an activity that carries a high risk of injury, including that 1 out of 100 participants will suffer a concussive injury. When a dairy cow is infected with mastitis, more than 90 percent of her cells are the inflammatory cells that form pus. You talk about raping your cows in a calculated way, without remorse. These activists will not rest until the family farm goes out of business. November 28, 2022 The dairy guy has explained the immune response well. As always, questions or comments are more than welcome in the comments section below! The rest is simple facts, basic knowledge. I think your obvious denial comes from a different motivation, where you are desperate to avoid any negativity regarding milk, even if it means denying the truth, and yes, PUS in milk is a disgusting thought. Also, those same countries usually consume the most meat, and likewise have higher rates of heart disease and diabetes. So, thank you for the work you do. An udder infection called mastitis is very common in dairy cows and causes pus to leach into milk. So it got me thinking surely human milk also have this immune response? Somatic cell counts greater than a million per teaspoon are abnormal and almost always caused by mastitis. The goal of the agricultural industry is to sustain human life and livelihood. I believe most vegans like me are just doing things which we think are right and we never force people to do anything. In the dairy industry, their milk and babies are stolen from them, all so that humans can consume an unhealthy "product." SoIs there pus in milk??? Mastitis is actually a disease that afflicts most mammals, including humans. Maybe you are the best, a great guy who loves his cows and treats them with respect, never harming them, always showing compassion and making sure you consider their needs and interests. All rights reserved. I grew up on it. Maybe that's why people started Googling "cockroach milk snopes," convinced it was a . Unless youre abusing your animals. But thats just the world we live in where animals are bred specifically for food humans have just evolved so much now that we arent natural anymore! Also, is bovine casein the same as human casein? Water supply companies ? http://nutritionfacts.org/2011/09/08/how-much-pus-is-there-in-milk/ Perhaps youve seen inflammatory infographics like this one: Maybe youve even had the dubious pleasure of watching the same video I have, where the somber voice over gleefullychortles aboutthe millions of pus cells present in each glass of milk. Period! And those clots and flakes you refer in mastitis milk what do they consist of ? Phlegm is the thick, sticky mucus that drips down the back of your throat when you have a cold. Many of these people could have the evidence presented to them on a platter and theyll still rather believe the myths cuz ah red it on the Facebook!. Mastitic milk is never green! They are white blood cells. is SELFISH. Well, that is pus ! And Im on a very, very specific diet designed to keep me going for stuff I can digest and not cause my stomach to shut down. Other dairies do a really good job on milk quality too. It is all dependent on her age. one cubic centimeter (cc) of commercial cows milk is allowed to have up to 750,000 somatic cells. Cholesterol is good for you and you need it to function, 25% of your bodies cholesterol is in the brain. Pus is a fluid that consists of dead immune cells, infectious material, and tissue. And to say research hasnt indicated milk is unhealthy is false, just because you dont stay up to date on scientific studies doesnt mean they dont exist. Hi, Thanks, for commenting! It actually got worse. Wow! Try googling it and you will find no such device. The average somatic cell count in U.S. milk per spoonful is 1,120,000. Maybe According to the new USDA data, the American milk supply averages 224,000 somatic cells/ml (based on bulk tank samples taken from whole herds). According to my calculations* based on USDA data released last month, the average cup of milk in the United States would not be expected to contain more than a single drop of pus. Animal rights folks are not better at caring for the animals. My vitamin d levels were critically low when I was already taking supplements. We all know the benefits you enjoy ($$$$$$$) from your mutual relationship with your cows. guaranteed every test will have pus in it. I bet you that you could make the same claim about people who can afford to buy tuxedos and those who cant. n. A generally viscous, yellowish-white fluid formed in infected tissue, consisting of white blood cells, cellular debris, and necrotic tissue. But theres no need to talk to each other online in a way we would never talk face-to-face. No science needed in this comparison, just some good ol common sense.. Did you even read my post Dairy Guy? Im very glad this, article cleared things up. what happens to the male calf Many people claim they know more than a doctors, lawyers, and architects, but do they. * According to the new USDA data, the American milk supply averages 224,000 somatic cells/ml (based on bulk tank samples taken from whole herds). Dante The Opera Artists; Dante Virtual Opera; Divine Comedy; About IOT. I would love to add Dairy back to my Diet but articles like the above really put me off. Dairy cows must be forcibly impregnated (for humans wed call that rape) in order to lactate like any mammal. I am actually just a real dairy farmer explaining reality. What are Honda Odyssey seats made of. They just want to to fall for fallacious thinking, in this case an availability heuristic which meaning that media prevalence doesnt equal actual prevalence. They are tied down to prevent muscle growth then at around 4 months old we kill them and call it veal. Bob, you make my heart happy. After the cow is milked, the lotion is applied a second time to make sure the cows udder stays bacteria free. And your point is well-taken about organic milk and not being able to treat mastitis in those cows with anti-biotics. When in fact there is everything wrong with it and the the entire system of dairy and animal exploitation that comes with it. We will see who is healthier. Milk-secreting tissue, and various ducts throughout the mammary gland are damaged due to toxins by the bacteria. Then you look up dead white blood cells in milk yes they have dead white blood cells BUT no pus? It is easy to spread lies, but harder to admit truth. Besides, it contains casein which is addictive and that is why people cant stop eating dairy. Baby steps are good and the fact that you guys are supporting separating cows with mastitis and not using hormones.. that insinuates that you, even within the industry realize that there are some major things going on that are not good. More recently, Sae's post gained a new virality in Spanish-speaking corners of the internet. Select whichever device. That cow will stay in the herd for years. Apart from his illness not being set off my the lactose, he has not changes at all, he went through a period of no milk, now he uses lacto free products and feels good. If you fail 3 times, you will be shut down and will lose your license to produce milk. The only reason is: milk is not healthy. If you agree or disagree, please feel free to let me know in the comments below. I hope the American dairy famers have the same law. Want to start on something thats more inhumane first, halal meat? The bull calves go to a local beef ranch that raises them until they are full grown. The calves were raised to be milkers not for veal not all dairies mistreat their animals fact is I named some of them and made pets of them. Cows can get bumps and bruises just like us and that could cause blood in milk. When a cow is treated with antibiotics, her milk also does not enter the supply chain and is discarded until the drug specific withdrawal time has passed. The industry refers to them as spent and banks wont consider them collateral after just 4 years. Bob I disagree you are a salesman, and you are selling your paradigm. The average somatic cell count in a spoonful of milk in the US is over one millionwhich equates to an average of around 1 drop of pus in the average glass of milk. The problem is that many of our cows are not healthy. A million cells per spoonful sounds like a lot, but pus is really concentrated. You can read about how we use alternatives to antibiotics at the dairy here. As mentioned earlier, milk is also packed in large tanks or in bulk. Be open minded enough to consider that your facts may not actually be facts. Obviously you have not read the article Somatic cells ARE NOT pus. Somatic just means body. Just as normal human breast milk has somatic cellsmostly non-inflammatory white blood cells and epithelial cells sloughed off from the mammary gland ductsso does milk from healthy cows. pus in milk snopes. It wouldnt just be some fanatics claiming milk isnt healthy when they have never seen or studied mastitis. So, denying that white blood cells are in fact pus makes you look silly and uneducated, which I dont believe you are. So pus is not actually asymptomof mastitis. Milk is such a low grade food and you must understand youre fucking up the planet no? Ill take that as a compliment, thanks, Compassion does exist outside of veganism. The goal of animal agriculture is to make money from animal products and slaughtering animals. Think about it, people have been doing other things for a long, long time too, such as rape and murder. Anecdotes =/= data, I dont mean to sound like a smarty, but with that logic, wouldnt that mean that your body is full of puss! As excuse me. Keep in mind that white blood cells are in all animal products. You may have no agenda but the dairy guy has the agenda to protect the dairy industry. Milk is a product of lactation and is thus meant to keep newborns and babies alive. The legal limit in the UK is 400 million pus cells per litre. Only factorys and laboratories can make veganism possible. Because dairy milk is pooled together in large tanks, virtually all dairy milk contains this pus. My health has not changed one tiny bit from drinking milk, to not drinking milk. Making their lives more comfortable is always the goal and I have yet to meet a vegan who is contributing towards making animals lives better.
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